DEBATE
BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY
VS.
KEN HAM CREATION SCIENTIST
Hi all my fine friends! Well, this week I am actually on a working/vacation visit to my sisters. So I am recording this blog ahead of schedule to be release on Monday March 3rd.
And speaking of recording, how many of you where able to watch the debate between Ken Ham--founder and president of the world renowned creation museum Answers In Genesis, and Bill Nye the Science Guy. It was an interesting debate between a creation scientist and a secular/evolution based scientist. But due to the nature of the debate, Ken was not able to answer some of Bill’s questions. You, my readers, may be wondering about the answers to some of these questions. Here are some of Nye’s questions….and the answers.- Nye said snow cylinders show 680,000 years of layers. The part that’s true is the 680,000 layers. The part that’s not true is that each layer represents one year. The truth is that each layer represents one snowstorm/one laying down of snow. The laying down of a snow layer can occur from a snowstorm in which fresh snow falls from the sky, or it can be from snow blown in from a different area. Many layers can be laid down in one year. Ham gave an example of a WWII airplane buried under many layers of snow--many more layers than years that have passed since WWII.
- Nye claimed that Bristlecone pines are known to be up to 9,550 years old. This ‘known’ date comes from a core drilling to count how many tree rings there are. Again, each rings represents a season of growth, not a year. There can be more than one season of growth if the weather is amenable. Nye made the assumption that the past is the same as the present and that there can only be one growth ring per year because where the Bristlecone pines are located currently, on average only have one growth season per year. However conditions immediately following the global flood and on into The Ice Age were drastically different, and the weather as far south as where the trees are would have been very amenable indeed resulting in many growth spurts/seasons per year.
- Nye said the Grand Canyon layers are stratified, proving they formed over long ages of time rather than quickly during a global flood. I could write a book about this, but let’s just look at two rather blazing facts. First, the layers in the grand canyon. “The observable fact is that the layers seen at Grand Canyon are sedimentary layers laid down by water, interspersed with an occasional lava flow. All the sedimentary layers contain marine fossils and there are no ‘time gaps” between the layers.”1 There is no evidence of organic material such as dead plants and animals on the top of each layer as would be expected if there were millions or even thousands of years between each layer. Secondly, we have an observable circumstance in the Mount Saint Helens volcanic explosion. “Most people also believe that canyons are made very slowly as rivers gradually cut through the hard rocks. But several canyons have formed quickly near Mount St Helens. Above right is Engineers' Canyon, which was formed in one day (March 19, 1982), when a mudflow swept through. The cliff on the right is 30 metres (100 feet) high!”2 This evidence teaches us that canyons and layers are not always as old as they seem. And it fits perfectly with what we’d expect to find following a worldwide flood.
- Nye asked for just one example of a fish swimming between layers of rock. He said if we could provide just one example, he would have to reconsidered his beliefs. Well Mr. Nye. There are actually quite a few examples. In places throughout the world, fossilized tree trunks “actually rise vertically through many different layers and are known as polystrate fossils. These trunks are separated from their roots and filled with different sediments and even fossil amphibians. Uniformitarian geologists claim that these trees grew in swamps and were slowly covered by muddy sediment as the swamps were flooded. New trees would then grow, so a new peat layer would form and the cycle would repeat. It is highly unlikely that the this story is true. The presence of roots inside the trunks and scattered through the surrounding soil, as well as the absence of roots penetrating lower layers, discredit the idea that the trees grew in place. Well-preserved leaf fossils would not be present in the swampy conditions, and some of the trees are at an angle or upside down. The sandstones are cross bedded and many of the root fragments are oriented in a similar direction, indicating fast moving water.”3
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| Layers laid down in minutes at MT. ST. Helens |
But Nye asked for a fish….well how about a whale? “At a diatomaceous-earth quarry in Lompoc, California, a remarkable discovery was made during mining operations in 1976. Workers of the Dicalite Division of Grefco Corporation uncovered the fossil skeleton of a baleen whale. The whale fossil is standing on end in the quarry and is being exposed gradually as the diatomite is mined. Estimates are that the fossil is about eighty feet long.
“What does this find mean? In a phrase, it means that this formation could not have been built up gradually over millions of years. The billions of tiny diatom shells making up the formation had to be deposited in a very short period of time. Here is why—
“A creature that dies does not normally become a fossil. In order to do so it must be buried deeply and quickly in wet sediment to seal if off from the atmosphere, bacteria, and so forth. Otherwise it will simply rot. Thus, one can be confident that the eighty-foot portion of the formation containing the whale had to be deposited quickly.
“In addition, if deposition of the diatoms was sporadic, with long periods of time separating brief periods of rapid deposition, there ought to be clear lines of erosional separation in the formation rather than a smooth and continuous conformity. Since there are no such erosional lines in the deposit, the indication is that not only the eighty-foot portion containing the fossil whale, but the remainder of the deposit as well, must have been deposited quickly.”4
All physical evidence supports scripture….because that is the true history of our world.
We will look into more of these questions next time….until then, enjoy Gods beautiful world!
Willow Dressel
This week in the night skies; “first quarter moon is March 8th.”5
References:
1http://www.creationministries.org/showpage.aspx?page=98
5http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=393&month=3&year=2014&obj=moon&afl=-11&day=1
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